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Post by Mr Modica on May 26, 2013 18:37:34 GMT
Right, to get this kicked off, you are welcome to set up your own questions or discussions...
I'll start with Chance as the biggest contributing factor to advances in medicine during the renaissance. If it wasn't for Pare's discovery people would still be dying of pain and shock...
Let's get arguing... :-)
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Post by Molly on May 30, 2013 16:04:09 GMT
I'll have to disagree with you there. I believe that Individuals was the biggest factor to improving knowledge and medicine during the Reanissance. Without Vesailles, Pare and Harvey many people would have still have believed that all of Galen's discoveries were true.
Vesailles proved over 200 of Galen's ideas to be wrong and showed how all the bones fitted together in his book; 'The Fabric Of The Human Body'. He also gave the public a better understanding of the body's anatomy by digging up corpes and dicovering where all the organs were, BUT not what they did.
Chance did come into the equation when it came to Pare. He ran out of oil to seal the open wounds with and by chance made the soothing ointment. However, he also found that tying the arteries up with ligatures stopped death by blood loss.
Harvey was also a very important individual during the Renaissance. He dicovered that the blood acted like a pump and circulated around the body. Without this we could still believe that it just sits in our body.
Overall, you can clearly see that individuals were way more important in the progress of medicine and the understanding of how the body worked than chance.
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Post by Mr Modica on May 30, 2013 16:51:14 GMT
Well to be fair, how important has Penicillin proven to be? and that was all by chance when Fleming went on his jollies and left his dish out! I suppose though to also be fair to you at that point it wasn't really that useful until the individuals of Chain and Florey (and Heatley) got involved, so I suppose I have to concede to you there! Your point about VESALIUS is also well made!!
However try not to get confused with Vesalius and Versailles! That is my last word in a huff because your answer destroyed my opinion!!
Who else can do better?... ;-D
Well done Molly!
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Post by Calum on May 30, 2013 18:39:24 GMT
Granted, Vesalius, Pare and Harvey were all brilliant but, if it wasn't for technology at the time, none of them would have succeeded.
For example, Vesalius would not have been able to spread his ideas around Europe if it hadn't have been for the newly invented printing press. Thus, people would not have been able to read his ideas and have a different opinion on the matter, meaning that Galen's ideas may still have been accepted. Also, Vesalius used artists to draw pictures which helped him illustrate his points.
William Harvey knew that the heart was the control for the flow of blood. He came across this theory with the help of a newly developed Water Pump. The water pump inspired him.
Having said all this, I agree with Molly, because it was the three men who moved the understanding of the human body along, (but they still couldn't explain what caused disease.) But I do believe technology played a great importance, i believe that the three doctors would struggle to get their points across because it would have taken ages to publish their books plus, Harvey would not have had his inspiration. Without technology, their ideas (especially Vesalius' and Harvey's), would not have been as popular?
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Post by Mc Pimpdaddy on May 30, 2013 19:55:33 GMT
History is awesome
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Post by Molly on May 31, 2013 15:23:15 GMT
The discovery of penicillin wasn't during the renaissance?! Oops, it's so confusing with all the similar words! But thank you
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Post by Mr Modica on May 31, 2013 18:31:57 GMT
YESSSSSS! Did that as a test to see if anyone would notice!! You've passed the test :-D Make sure you are answering the actual question! :-D
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